Advice and Info About Enlisting Into the Marine Corps

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LYING TO MEPS

The decision to tell a lie to gain enlistment into the Marine Corps is one that you and only you should make.

You should never allow for anyone including your recruiter, any Marine, any veteran or anyone else to persuade you to tell a lie.

If you choose to lie during your enlistment process, there are some things that you need to know about beforehand. If after reading this page you go on to lie, and if you end up getting busted for fraudulent enlistment, you will have no one to blame but the idiot in your mirror. And for the record, "forgetting" to admit something is seen the same as lying and it is not an excuse.

IMPORTANT: When choosing to lie to gain enlistment for whatever reason, you need to look at it like this example: Many of us will drink and drive and many of us will get away with it, but every now and then some of us do get caught and the effects can change our lives. We all know it is illegal and we all take that risk and some of us will get busted, so think about what you are wanting to do.

One major issue with telling a lie is this: Once you commit to the lie, you have to continue on with the lie when and if it comes up and in some cases this lie can follow you well into your civilian career. If there ever came a point in your life where you would be going through a polygraph (lie detector) exam, your lie may become exposed. You can expect a polygraph exam to be given in career fields such as law enforcement and government jobs (CIA, FBI, ATF, DEA,etc.) which many of you are interested in plus in many other civilian jobs which I don’t know about. What if they asked you the simple question of, “have you ever lied to gain employment in your past?” Think about the issues your little lie can create for you later on down the road.

Many of you will require Top Secret or Secret clearances for your desired MOS and many of you might want to do things such as Embassy Duty, Presidential Duty, or some other job once in the Corps that will require some probing into your background due to security issues. Once again, your lie may become exposed. Remember, once you put that lie on paper, you must be willing to carry on with your lie for the rest of your USMC career and life when it applies. There really is no telling when and where it will apply which is why telling a lie is such a huge risk.

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH: There is a “moment of truth” during boot camp and this will be when they try to scare you into admitting that you may of lied or left out some key info during your enlistment. Hopefully those of you who choose to lie don’t crack during this process. Trust me folks, some of you who lie to enlist will crack under this pressure and you can be kicked out at that moment.

Let’s take a look at a lie that has to do with an old injury. Let’s assume you lied about breaking your wrist when you were a kid. No big deal, right? Let’s say two years into your enlistment you bang up your wrist during training or even in combat. If an x-ray is taken and if this x-ray shows previous injury to your wrist, I think it is safe to assume that you will now have some explaining to do. Anytime you get hurt while in boot camp or as a Marine, the USMC is going to do everything in their power to ensure that they did not cause this injury. What I mean is they are going to ensure that your injury did not exist prior to that day. Don’t ask me how, but medical doctors have their ways about finding previous injuries. If your injury is in a medical record and if you lie about it, once again, you're taking a huge chance.

MENTAL ISSUES: If you lie about mental issues and you have them, enlisting into the USMC is the last thing you want to do. I can almost guarantee you that serving in the USMC will make any mental issue you may have 1,000 times worse and then you will be crying like a little bitch begging to be kicked out.

DRUG USE: If you lie about having done drugs in the past, you may get away with it. But what if after the USMC you try to land a job that will probe into your life and what if they find your old friends who admit that you did drugs? Remember, if you lie about drugs to gain enlistment into the USMC, you have to keep telling this lie if it ever comes up later on down the road.

Anytime something is on record meaning there is a file of the event out there, you have to assume someone can see it. So think about that before telling your lie. And always remember, no matter how little the lie may seem, it can come back to haunt you at one point or another during your life.
Bottom line is this: Not telling them that you tried pot once or twice or about a non-documented run in with the police is not a big deal as long as you are ok with lying. Not telling them you had heart surgery, asthma, any mental issues or any criminal record is not ok. Do not put your health at risk by telling a lie. Serving in the USMC is not worth it. Future Jarheads is not going to tell you what lies are ok and which aren't. But just use common sense. If you want to lie about something that is documented meaning there is an official record of the event, it is probably not a good idea. If you want to lie about something that only two or three people know about and  there is no record of it, more power to you. Just make sure you are ok with carrying on with your lie all throughout your enlistment and after it if it applies. In reality this "lying" issue comes down to each of you. Some people are ok with telling a lie while others can't live with telling lies, so do what you think is best for you without risking your health or your good record.

The funny thing about telling a lie is that in most cases admitting these things when enlisting doesn't mean an automatic disqualification. I do understand many people do lie or choose to leave info out when enlisting and most of them will get away with it, but I am here to tell you that some of you will get busted whether it be in the USMC or later on down the road. If you are going to lie to gain enlistment, then at least find out for certain if this lie is even needed. Waivers are granted all the time for shit many of you lie about, so don't be a dumb ass!

TRUE STORY: In the late summer of 2014, one of our long time fans shipped to boot camp without telling them about a previous knee injury. This poolee said he "forgot" to mention this to MEPS. No big deal, right? Nope! During the first week of boot camp his knee was injured. He was sent to medical where they took x-rays and when the doctors looked at his x-rays, they noticed a PREVIOUS injury that was not in his medical records. He was kicked out of boot camp for fraudulent enlistment. The fucked up part is that he didn't need to lie about this, but I guess he didn't listen to the right people and now he will never become a Marine. Think about this when you choose to lie to gain enlistment.

NOTE: If you are a military dependent, then you cannot lie about your medical history because the military has full access to your records and they do look through them.